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No Presents For Christmas, No Khanookah?
 
Would we Jews be celebrating Khanookah, if there were no Christmas and no Presents for this day? If we would not. Then that's a wonderful reason for being grateful for Christmas. Since the story of Khanookah is in the Apochrypha and was forbidden reading to Jews (except Rabbis of course). In fact, it IS because of Khanookah that Jews can now read the Apochrypha and even study it in Jewish community learning.
 
 
-Chanukah has absolutely nothing to do with Christmas. Christmas is the day of Jesus' birth, while Chanukah was a struggle between the Jews and the Greeks. 2) No miracle or special occasion needed for the birth of Jesus, other than a reminder by Christians, while Chanukah is the celebration of the miracles that unfolded by a rag tag group of Jewish fighters who defeated a numerically superior enemy and the miracle of a day's worth of oil lasting eight days. Reason being is that the leaders of the fight against the Greeks were priests. Once defeated, the priests assumed command, and that was a major wrong doing as there was supposed to be a balance of power between the Jewish clergy and the Jewish royalty. Once mixed, the royalty and priesthood took a turn for the worse. -Christians wouldn't be celebrating Christmas if there were no Hanukkah. - I think they would have celebrated Christmas, since they seem to have gotten it from the Roman Kalenda and Saturnalia, but they might have done it on a different date than 25th of the first winter month (Kislev roughly corresponds to December). I've got to wonder, though, what the relation between Roman Saturnalia and Chanukah really is, since they do seem to be held at the same time, for 8 days following the 25th of the first winter month (the English footnote in Soncino says that the Romans celebrated the equinox on the 25th, and the New Year on the 17th December).
 

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